Police Department Consolidation Beat Intro Voiceover 00:00 This is the Beat – a podcast series that keeps you in the know about the latest community policing topics facing our nation. Interview Katherine McQuay 00:08 This is Katherine McQuay with the COPS Office. With us today is Chief Brad Bloom from Hinsdale, Illinois. Chief Bloom is here today to discuss regionalization and consolidation. Chief, as we start, if you could tell us a bit about Hinsdale for our listeners not familiar with it. Chief Brad Bloom 00:26 Sure. Hinsdale is a suburban Chicago community, made up of approximately 18,000 people. We’re one of the western suburbs of Chicago. It’s a very affluent community. It’s a community rich in history. It prides itself on its school systems and its love of the past and trying to keep as much contact with the past and their roots as they can. Katherine 00:48 We know that Hinsdale has been pursuing shared service agreements with its neighbors for a few years now. Can you talk to us about the village’s motivations to explore these options? Brad 00:59 Sure. It started like, the budget crisis started with many police departments back in 2008. In 2008 we laid off three police officers, we contracted out our 911 services, we converted full-time civilian positions to part-time positions, and we brought in the use of volunteers. We reduced our budget somewhat significantly doing that without cutting our services. But going forward we knew that our costs were going to increase. There was growing concern that the cost of public safety was becoming too big a portion of the village’s overall budget. One of the areas that they had looked at was consolidation and shared services. The four communities located in the southeast part of DuPage County, we all had contiguous borders, the police chiefs of those communities began to meet and talk about ways that we could reduce our costs through shared services and consolidation. We’ve been working on it ever since then and the plan has migrated to the point where it is today. Katherine 01:58 How did you determine what services made sense to share? Brad 02:02 That’s a great question. We looked at functional consolidation first. What I mean by functional is certain functions of the organizations. Every police department has an investigative unit, every police department has an administrative function. Then we also have some smaller functions like crime prevention officers, D.A.R.E. officers, evidence custodians, evidence techs. What we determined was the only way to save money was to consolidate that major functions. The two areas that we looked at was investigations and the administrative side. What happened next was that we put together a report, and the report talked about, we covered shared services and functional consolidations. We also talked about consolidating the police departments, but we knew this was a monumental task and there would probably be a lot of push-back to achieving that. Then one of the police chiefs of one of the four communities left somewhat abruptly. We decided that Hinsdale, the town I work in, is a very close match with that community, both demographically—we share the same school systems—and we line up very closely with that community. We thought, “Now is our opportunity to pursue consolidation of those police departments.” So we’ve been pursuing that consolidation since that time. Katherine 03:21 We know that local authority and control is often a big concern for citizens when they’re considering consolidating. How have you all and your partner agencies worked to address those public concerns? Brad 03:35 I think that it is a concern and I think the only way to really address that concern is because the communities are different sizes. Clarendon Hills, which is the community we’re working with to partner with in consolidation, is about a third of our size. I think there’s some concern that they’re going to be Hinsdale-light. I think there’s some concern that it’s not going to be an equitable sharing of services—that the services are going to be allocated to the bigger community where the services are more needed. I think that has to be addressed through the governance. Our city councils are very aware of that. They want to make sure that, going into this process, that the smaller community has a say and has a significant say in determining the direction; how the police department is staffed and how the services are allocated. Katherine 04:23 We know that the effects of consolidation can be very concerning to officers. What are some of the things you’ve done to help your officers approach the move and better adjust to the changes? Brad 04:34 What we really did right away, I think was key. The city councils met in an executive session to decide whether they wanted to pursue consolidation. There was a consensus amongst both city councils to pursue it. We knew we needed to meet with organized labor in the departments as quickly as possible. We immediately met simultaneously with both groups and we assured them that there was no plan in place—that they had just decided this was a direction that they wanted to pursue and were just at the beginning stages of looking into it. The other key thing that I think we did was to assure them that we would get to the right number of officers, in the end, through attrition. No one was in danger of losing their job. It wasn’t going to be a major change to the work rules or to their benefits. I think that put everybody at ease as much as we could. There’s still some concerns about what the department is going to look like, which supervisors are going to be responsible for which shifts, which chief is going to manage both departments, what the identity is of the departments. We have two separate cultures and we’re trying to mesh those cultures. My concern in this process is that we don’t sacrifice in quality. I think this is a direction we need to go in. I think this is a direction of the future. I’ve told a lot of my counterparts and I’ve told many officers in our department, this needs to be an area that we pursue today. If we’re facing a huge budgetary shortfall in the future, we’re going to have to do this and we’re going to have to do it overnight. If we do it overnight and we don’t do it in a measured, careful fashion, we are going to sacrifice the quality of services, and that’s something that we want to avoid. I have some officers that are excited about this as something that’s new and innovative, and on the cutting edge and the first to do it. I have other officers who are very concerned about the impact this is going to have on the culture of the organization. I think the biggest thing that we did right, though, was to tell people that the plan is not in place. We’re not bringing them in, and not bringing labor in at the 11th hour. We’re bringing them in immediately and we want them as a partner in this process. We don’t want to dictate the rules. We’re very concerned that if we don’t have the agreement of labor, if it’s a process they’re going into kicking and screaming, that I’m going to have 40 officers out there in the community building coalitions against this project. They’re a very influential group of people. People are very concerned when it comes to public safety because it is public safety. We need their support; they need a strong understanding of it for it to work. So far, everything is moving forward and it seems to be going well. Things seem to be very much on track. Katherine 07:23 That was going to be my last question, how do you think it’s going so far, and you think, fairly well? Brad 07:29 Well, I think overall government moves slowly. What we did initially when we started this process is we brought in experts with a labor background, experts with intergovernmental agreement backgrounds, and experts dealing with police and fire commissions, and we said, “What is the right sequence to do this? What is our best strategy to do this?” So we’re trying to do this without making any missteps. It’s new and uncharted territory but we think we’re making some progress. But government moves slowly. We think we are on track and things are looking good. Katherine 08:03 Chief Bloom, thank you so much and good luck! Brad 08:06 Thank you! Beat Exit Voiceover: 08:07 The Beat was brought to you by the United States Department of Justice COPS Office. 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